Is record investment in driverless cars outpacing a clear business model?
Core argument: Investment in the driverless car industry reached an all-time high of $750m in the first quarter, with Ford and GM investing heavily as they view autonomous vehicles as both a threat and an opportunity.
The driverless car industry is experiencing rapid growth, with investment reaching an all-time high of $750m in Q1. Major automakers like Ford and GM are investing heavily, viewing autonomous vehicles as both a threat and an opportunity. This has led to significant acquisitions, such as GM's $1bn purchase of Cruise and Uber's $680m acquisition of Otto. Despite the hype, the business model remains unclear, and the industry faces challenges like regulatory hurdles and talent shortages. However, the potential for disruption in the multitrillion-dollar transportation sector is immense, positioning auto companies to leverage their capital and expertise to build service fleets, ultimately emerging as winners in the driverless car revolution.




The vc giants’ newfound contrition comes on the back of a gigantic tech crash. The tech-heavy nasdaq index fell by a third in 2022, making it one of the worst years on record and drawing comparisons with the dotcom bust of 2000-01. According to the Silicon Valley Bank, a tech-focused lender, between the fourth quarters of 2021 and 2022, the average value of recently listed tech stocks in America dropped by 63%. And the plunging public valuations dragged down private ones (see chart 1). The value of older, larger private firms (“late-stage” in the lingo) fell by 56% after funds marked down their assets or the firms raised new capital at lower valuations. 









Steve Comment: the legal aspects are really hard. no easy answer to the trolley problem
Anand Comment: Conversation over bourbon in Ed’s office I agree with the caveat that there could be potential network benefits - is this a winner take all scenario or are the systems open enough? Also, I am sure it is NOT a commodity…wait till a “junior miner” kills an innocent bystander and apple’s car doesn’t. this is not copper! Why do we use waze and not some other mapping technology? Also, maintenance costs are down dramatically in a EV world, see figure 7 of attached report (nobody talks about combining IC gas engines with autonomous driving even though you can). The three elements autonomous, EV and uber type sharing arrangements are the “combined” holy grail.
Steve Comment: Agree with Ed, Though my understanding is street mapping is really expensive, one reason why google has such a lead. Also ultimately the self driving car software is just a commodity, basic price for entry
Ed Comment: Can't the technology for controlling the car be independent of the tech that allows you to use your time in the car? I don't see how one gives an advantage in the other, unless street mapping is prohibitive expensive, which seems doubtful. My guess is that producing self driving cars (and or maintaining the fleet) will produce similar poor returns for producing cars today because there are no customer switching costs from buying / using a different car.
Anand Comment: We should talk about this live. Cant type so much....you are missing the bigger picture, I think
Steve Comment: suppose interactive entertainment (Snapchat or whatever) can now compete with passive entertainment (talk radio or whatever) but I don't see it has a giant business opportunity, look at fatality rates. people are already texting as they drive, Apple radio is already here...
Anand Comment: in a very different way!! you cant play with your phone while driving -- you can listen to Howard Stern!! people want to play with there phones and do VR and all sorts of nonsense!
Steve Comment: "...apple/google/fb etc will invest in autonomous simply because they want to “monetize your time” while you are not driving..." that "600 billion hours" has already been monetized by Howard Stern over 40 years ago!
Driverless cars inspire a new gold rush in California (FT)
"...In the autonomous gold rush, it’s less obvious whether there is any gold there, he says. “There is effectively zero revenue that is being produced by this industry,” he points out. “You’ve got this massive, multi-billion-dollar science project, that’s basically on VC life support, until such a time as somebody ships and makes money.”..."
Steve Commen: reminded me of this chart from Grants. transition to car and truck from horse and mule was essentially completed in 25 years. The Ford Motor Co. was incorporated in 1903. It was during the Coolidge presidency— at about the time of Lindbergh’s solo flight across the Atlantic—that American automobiles finally outnumbered American horses and mules. Would also add that I'm still hard pressed to find the productivity improvements here, if Uber gets rid of drivers they then have to take on the fleet maintenance, they become a car rental company.
Source: "Sacred cows in the Road,"Grants Interest Rate Observer, April 21, 2017
Anand Comment: Too early to call Easier to identify extremes -- winners (e.g., lithium plays like ALB - not unrecognized by the market) and clear losers (guys who supply powertrain/turbochargers - e.g., continental/valeo/borg warner) Too tough to say whethe OE’s can do this….think about this, apple/google/fb etc will invest in autonomous simply because they want to “monetize your time” while you are not driving. By some estimates, there are 600 billion hours of wasted time spent driving in the US alone per year - aapl/goog/fb etc can somehow (not sure how) monetize that…..how will ford and GM monetize it? This is the reason why folks say if whatsapp was worth $20billion+ to fb, tesla can easily be worth $100b+ based simply on the value of monetizing the hours spent driving. The real cash to be made is NOT on making the vehicle (which is where F and Gm are going as are BMW/Mercedes etc) but figuring out the real value of your time! e.g., when I take uber from the gym to home, I now have time (a few extra minutes) to get on whatsapp. Uber discounted the ride so much that I take them rather than walk or take a cab - similar logic to this autonomous stuff Happy to chat on this - been doing a lot of work on it. Easy enough to make money over next 5 years buying lithium and shorting powertrain/turbocharger guys!!
Ed Comment: You sent me an article that persuaded me that the auto companies will be the winners because everyone else will need an enormous amount of capital and know-how to build and service the fleet. Don't see UBER or Google surmounted that. Perhaps Google could, but the returns have been poor.